Why, aye! You used to have to walk over the road and they were earth middens. They used to come and empty them out.'
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And there was a smell?
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'Umm! Serious! Flies? Why aye!'
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Name your brothers and sisters.
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'There was our Nora, our Margaret, Hubert, me, our Leo, our Katie and our Gene. But we had to move out of that house, there only two bedrooms, I think, and he got the top house in School Square.'
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Near where my mother lived?
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'We lived in 43 and your mother lived in 41. But that was later on. They moved out of Park Street. Why, they were only single storeys, like a bungalow--but the bedrooms were in the loft, they used to put curtains up and make bedrooms of them, separate bedrooms if there was a mixed family.'
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And your father was stern?
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'Oh, aye. Yeah, we used to get some bloody stick off him! For nowt, many a time. I used to get the blame of bloody things. Some bugger's put a window out somewhere and I used to get the bloody blame of the bugger. Used to get a bloody good hiding! I used to have to go to church at half past seven on a morning. Every day. For months.'
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The whole family?
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'No, sometimes they used to go, but I used to have to go. I was on the altar. He got us on the altar. Why, I don't know.'
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Who with?
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'There was about six of us. John Regan, Joe Regan. I used to go up to Regan's house around the North and learn the Latin.'
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The housing estate at Thornlaw North. The North was already built then?
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'That would be built in the 1920s. I can remember when they built that, we were only young 'uns.'
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And your father was a devout Catholic ever since you can remember?
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'Oh, aye.' And your mother's family?
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'They were all renegades, the Dempseys! My uncle Tom and my Uncle Bill, they were twins--they didn't look like each other but they were. My uncle Paddy and my uncle John: that was the four and my mother and my aunt Katie--she used to live at Ferry Hill, she was another daughter. I think there was another one as well, but I can't remember. My uncle Tom worked on the council, he was a labourer, a navvy. My uncle Paddy and my uncle Bill they worked at the pit.'
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At Thornley?
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'Umm. And my uncle John worked on the council, he was a bricklayer, maintenance. Used to go round doing repairs.
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